tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post5600600347362006053..comments2023-09-29T06:00:09.242-05:00Comments on Julie Pippert: Using My Words: Dear Hillary Clinton, Love, and politics, does mean having to say "I'm sorry"Julie Pipperthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03169574697104642479noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-18741703555823378722008-02-24T09:49:00.000-06:002008-02-24T09:49:00.000-06:00Well said. Well said. I am very disappointed in C...Well said. Well said. I am very disappointed in Clinton--and you've articulated well what has been bothering me so much about all this.Aliki2006https://www.blogger.com/profile/15763865834765963343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-22107747969180237522008-02-24T06:37:00.000-06:002008-02-24T06:37:00.000-06:00Hey Julie,Long time no comment - I've been flat ou...Hey Julie,<BR/><BR/>Long time no comment - I've been flat out with a lot of projects over my way but I am still reading (when I get a moment) and I caught this post just now - late to the party, I know.<BR/><BR/>I think I am possibly more interested in your politics than in ours recently. I've been catching a few of the debates and talk on cnn and fox news. <BR/><BR/>All along something has been really disturbing me about Hillary but I could not put my finger on it. I thought it might have been me, because if that were me and Bill were my husband, I would have kicked him to the kerb - and then gone out there to slap him around some more, perhaps throwing some garbage over his head before finally leaving him with the imprints of my heels stamped in his forehead. Yeah, maybe that is just me. :)<BR/><BR/>Not only did he disgrace her and his daughter, but he disgraced the Presidency. He turned America into a laughing stock around the world. And if there's anyone who can see his face without thinking about that darn cigar, I'd like to know how they rubbed it out of their memory banks.<BR/><BR/>Then I dropped by here and read this in the comments - Angela said - <BR/><BR/>"And I wish that Hillary would put the smug smile aside as well. It's killing her...so defensive....so angry."<BR/><BR/>That is what is disturbing me. She seems like she is smiling, but it is not a smile at all. It is something else entirely.<BR/><BR/>It almost seems like a wounded animal, smiling at you to make you think they have forgiven you, but planning to strike when you look away.<BR/><BR/>But it seems if you are female, and you do not like her, then you are betraying your gender. I don't care about that - it should be about the best person for the job. I don't think she is the that person.<BR/><BR/>I like Obama. I just don't think Hillary intends on bowing out gracefully. I suspect she's going to fight it to the convention.. and that is only going to make people dislike her more. ;(<BR/><BR/>Snoskred<BR/><A HREF="http://www.snoskred.org/" REL="nofollow">www.snoskred.org</A>Snoskredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12670406702782244306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-46234119915136090662008-02-23T20:37:00.000-06:002008-02-23T20:37:00.000-06:00You have articulated EXACTLY how I feel about HC. ...You have articulated EXACTLY how I feel about HC. Exactly.Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05602868040771218507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-67859117094718860112008-02-23T12:09:00.000-06:002008-02-23T12:09:00.000-06:00I so agree with you on pretty much every point her...I so agree with you on pretty much every point here, Julie. Professionally and personally, the ability to admit a mistake and really own it is a powerful thing.<BR/><BR/>Recently, I forgot to show up for a mini-class I was supposed to teach for my daughter's class. Just plumb forgot. I was mortified. In an email I sent to the students' parent about something I needed for the next week's class, I apologized. Now, most of the parents probably never knew I didn't show up. I just felt it weighing on my conscience though and said I was sorry. I received an email back from one of the parents thanking me for being honest and admitting a mistake. She then proceeded to share with me something personal which related.<BR/><BR/>Apology and honesty are powerful. I don't repeat this for my pat on the back; instead, I relate it to show how a small apology even can have a big impact.<BR/><BR/>If I thought there were more politicians out there who could do this, I'd have more faith and be more of a enthusiastic participant in our political system.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10270726693980247861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-4934450453528389842008-02-23T09:44:00.000-06:002008-02-23T09:44:00.000-06:00While I don't appreciate her attitude at times, I ...While I don't appreciate her attitude at times, I still really do believe in her policies. And I think a lot of this defensive behavior stems from how much she believes in her policies and really thinks she can make a difference when she gets there. Though, I'm not excusing it, of course. And a one track mind isn't always an asset when guiding an entire country.<BR/><BR/>I'm still torn. Healthcare is my BIG issue, and I think her plan really addresses it more thoroughly and I know that is a key priority for her and I appreciate that. Although, I don't exactly see that she has the power to unite the nation, which can be a hindrance. Obama, on the other hand, he's charismatic, he's attracting voters from both parties, and I think he does have the ability to unite the country. I'm just not as in love with his policies or convinced that he can get it done.<BR/><BR/>So this is me saying "I don't know!" for the 3 millionth time. But I think I'm a hair closer to Clinton. Maybe.Kylahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03311014761113076785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-6707399639272813702008-02-23T07:53:00.000-06:002008-02-23T07:53:00.000-06:00While I don't disagree that Hillary has hit some w...While I don't disagree that Hillary has hit some wrong notes in this campaign, we don't expect the same from any of the other "guys" in the race, so why should we expect her to play nice?<BR/><BR/>Not defending, just saying ...PunditMomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12919969826505761593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-42480048504709404692008-02-23T03:36:00.000-06:002008-02-23T03:36:00.000-06:00Melissa nailed it up there...But so did you: But ...Melissa nailed it up there...<BR/><BR/>But so did you: <BR/><I>But I had a larger goal: I wanted to fit in and be a part of something. I wanted friends and a community. I had to compromise myself to reach this larger goal.*<BR/><BR/>That's what I see in Hillary Clinton, to some degree, or at least I see signs that make me wonder about it.</I><BR/><BR/>That's <I>exactly </I> what I see in HC, sadly; any means appear to justify her ends. And, sadly, I don't think this is a 'new' trait she's just picked up on the campaign trail this year. I think she's been this way for a very long time.ewe are herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13339650361453626546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-7440161883519306622008-02-22T22:12:00.000-06:002008-02-22T22:12:00.000-06:00Hillary is just shocked she can't get away with ha...Hillary is just shocked she can't get away with half what Bill did. And she's angry over it as well. She expected this campaign to simply be handed to her and is deeply offended anyone has gotten in her way. You can see it in all the moves she makes.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04826309601023733396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-23939607722567843522008-02-22T19:47:00.000-06:002008-02-22T19:47:00.000-06:00Sigh....it really worries me, how tight and close ...Sigh....it really worries me, how tight and close this race is. Not a good thing. I'm voting for Obama, I've decided. And I wish that Hillary would put the smug smile aside as well. It's killing her...so defensive....so angry. I do think she is playing the "all's fair in love and politics" angle. Yep.Angelahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08013834612284846819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-88489633360116651962008-02-22T19:33:00.000-06:002008-02-22T19:33:00.000-06:00Great post Julie. I agree - I have to add that Hi...Great post Julie. I agree - I have to add that Hillary adding and using her time as First Lady as part of her total years of experience really bothers me. My own husband has been an military engineer for 14 years - I have listened to him and I understand a lot of what he does, but in no way would I count that as viable experience for me to step in and take on that job myself.Mary Alicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08923591889426758103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-64401684644892667252008-02-22T18:52:00.000-06:002008-02-22T18:52:00.000-06:00Nope, I don't think she can.Nope, I don't think she can.flutterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11828689769747130419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-7152968861479378972008-02-22T15:20:00.000-06:002008-02-22T15:20:00.000-06:00I know nothing about American politics - oh, we ge...I know nothing about American politics - oh, we get it tube fed to us over here, I just try to not watch it.<BR/><BR/>However, we recently had an issue regarding the word "Sorry".<BR/><BR/>There have been many, many Aussie bloggers who wrote about it (I didn't, they did it all better) but the crux was saying Sorry doesn't mean you are admitting defeat, you are acknowledging a wrong.jeaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17322709527738134797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-19395497784472331332008-02-22T14:51:00.000-06:002008-02-22T14:51:00.000-06:00Mommybytes, I know what you mean...and I thought a...Mommybytes, I know what you mean...and I thought about that before making it simply "what I wish she had done." I thought about whether the moment had passed, and you know? That's another big typical obstacle to apologies "least said, soonest mended." I don't think that's meant to exclude apologies.<BR/><BR/>I don't think this will become a sleeping dog, I don't think it will lie, until it is settled between THEM...with an apology. KWIM?Julie Pipperthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169574697104642479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-34303164941593877702008-02-22T13:24:00.000-06:002008-02-22T13:24:00.000-06:00Julie! I couldn't agree more. Haven't we in 8 year...Julie! I couldn't agree more. Haven't we in 8 years watched our current president and his administration dodge that question - isn't it completely disingenuous that anyone can have lived very long in our world without making a mistake? <BR/>One thing I learned early in life was the value of the front page full retraction style apology. "I am truly sorry and would like you to forgive me if you feel you are able." No other kind of apology can replace, none can repair so much harm, none takes so many by complete surprise. When we receive it, it charms us, makes us want to be act better, more generous, more magnanimous. When we offer it, we open ourselves up to risk, but reap the rewards that come along with truth, fair play and integrity.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09390898429089863816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-64828783023653604302008-02-22T13:13:00.000-06:002008-02-22T13:13:00.000-06:00I'm not sure why you think Republican choices don'...I'm not sure why you think Republican choices don't benefit the majority of Americans, Annie. I really think they want all people to have the opportunity to provide for their families. I'm confused, though, it sounded in your comment as though you are not pro choice (by your statement that you disagree with Democrats) but then it sounded as if you are pro choice (because you dislike Republicans). I'm confused, please explain. Thanks.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04826309601023733396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-19992452457656002762008-02-22T12:51:00.000-06:002008-02-22T12:51:00.000-06:00an apology? oh be still my heart.and then, of cou...an apology? oh be still my heart.<BR/><BR/>and then, of course (at least according to CNN, I didn't watch the thing myself... rehearsal, you know...) Senator Clinton practically quoted John Edwards at the end of the debate. So... she did what she accused Obama of doing?!? Hello!!?!painted maypolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06446625015003854710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-64382446325341631712008-02-22T12:18:00.000-06:002008-02-22T12:18:00.000-06:00My weighing in on this is somewhat sterile at this...My weighing in on this is somewhat sterile at this point since I don't yet have the right to vote - but - I'm watching it all very curiously.<BR/><BR/>I can absolutely respect your thorough and reasoned opinion on why you would have problems voting for Hillary - I just wish that the rest of the people who judge because a)she's female, b) she's Bill's wife, c) she stayed with a cheating husband d)insert your own invalid reason here ad infinitum, would do the same!<BR/><BR/>I like Hillary - but have noticed the same thing re the 'not backing down' - and it makes you wonder. It also is a testament to the similarities between these Democratic candidates that low level pot shots like this are the best she can come up with in trying to discredit her opponent?<BR/><BR/>I have one big area where I disagree with the Democratic candidates, and that is on the Pro Choice issue - but most every other policy they have is in line with what I believe. I would never vote for a Republican because they tend to be against choice, because nearly every other policy they hold does not benefit the majority of people in this country, nor ordinary people, like me. The mudslinging earlier on in the Republican campaigns was a lot worse in my opinion than what we see between Obama and Clinton - and I will weep, absolutely weep if the American people vote another Republican into the Whitehouse.<BR/><BR/>You're holding my future in your hands people, make the right choice!Anniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07387168103798629268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-5802280479422201092008-02-22T12:11:00.000-06:002008-02-22T12:11:00.000-06:00I am Baracking the vote. I have no idea what else ...I am Baracking the vote. I have no idea what else you said because I am not intelligent enough to read proper English, but I am going Obama. This is certain!Livhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09154719979114564561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-90183082805714324132008-02-22T11:57:00.000-06:002008-02-22T11:57:00.000-06:00I wish I'd written what Melissa wrote! Yeah, whew,...I wish I'd written what Melissa wrote! Yeah, whew, glad we don't have any experience with THAT.<BR/><BR/>This was a thoughtful, reasoned post. I'm afraid I'm still clinging to the Clinton ship. You might have just loosened my hold a tad, though.Jennifer Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16239563357592230711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-3320707811243932852008-02-22T11:46:00.000-06:002008-02-22T11:46:00.000-06:00I haven't anything new to add, just wanted to comm...I haven't anything new to add, just wanted to comment that it's nice to see some dialogue not laden with hate, but rather is analytical and critical. Julie Pippert, can't you run for president?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-80194326977060170862008-02-22T11:33:00.000-06:002008-02-22T11:33:00.000-06:00Bingo on what Melissa had to say. I was going to c...Bingo on what Melissa had to say. I was going to comment something pretty similar - same crap, different politician. It takes one hell of a person to admit when they've done or said something wrong.<BR/><BR/>I think that's why so many people are gravitating towards Obama - we are all looking for a change. I don't want another person in office who is going to keep repeating the mistakes of the current administration by acting as if they are always right and could never admit to any wrong doing.<BR/><BR/>I think you've hit the nail on the head with regards to Hillary. I couldn't put my finger on what I didn't like about her. Plain and simple, she's a politician. I need a breath of fresh air.Michelehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05775940306177910007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-41293054398421121502008-02-22T10:47:00.000-06:002008-02-22T10:47:00.000-06:00That was really well written. I don't trust Clint...That was really well written. <BR/>I don't trust Clinton. I just knew this part of her personality had not disappeared. She tried to disguise herself as the new, softer, more positive Hillary Clinton, but I just didn't buy it. And here she is taking low blows and taking cheap shots. <BR/>At least Obama has not engaged her in this department. It makes him look all the more trustworthy and dependable to me.Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14339665205284492242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-62018893980474004542008-02-22T10:35:00.000-06:002008-02-22T10:35:00.000-06:00I honestly don't like any of the final four all th...I honestly don't like any of the final four all that much, so it's time to pinch my nose come fall. I just hope the Supreme Court Justices hold on tight for the next four years... or eight... or just leave now. But only time will tell. If Hillary got it, I wouldn't be surprised to read headlines like "Justice Scalia dies mysteriously in his sleep" or "Justice Thomas committed to Bellvue after apparent psychotic breakdown." Sorry, I'm venting.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04826309601023733396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-10660946818668805182008-02-22T09:44:00.000-06:002008-02-22T09:44:00.000-06:00There is definitely a place for apologies, but the...There is definitely a place for apologies, but the scenario you envisioned prolongs the issue, places more emphasis on it than it deserves and brings more attention to the mistake. Face it, in the grand scale of thing, it is not that big a deal. You know, perhaps an apology a large issue like being mistaken about WMD would be more worthwhile ;). The fact that she did immediately back down implies that yes, perhaps she was mistaken (I remember her nodding her head in acknowledgment). A lesser opponent would've have tried to keep pushing Obama's eloquent answer. The zinger sounded almost scripted and I'm not sure whether it was from her or her camp. So definitely a bad judgment call on her part.<BR/><BR/>Aside from that issue, I've never had the warm and fuzzies from Hillary. And it's funny because my husband supports her while I support Obama (after sadly not being able to vote for Edwards in the primary). I had to push and ask my husband, if Obama is the Democratic candidate, you WILL vote for him won't you? He replied, yes... <BR/><BR/>BTW, it's refreshing to get this all out in a comment, where I would never put this info out on my own blog...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-73760987358155410322008-02-22T09:19:00.000-06:002008-02-22T09:19:00.000-06:00fantastic insight- thanks for breaking it down for...fantastic insight- thanks for breaking it down for me- I admit, with a tad of embarrassment, that I don't follow, understand or really care about American politics. I believe in the machine and really don't think a single person - even a single president makes ANY difference. I know. I suck. And when I retire to the south of France no one will miss me.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11376100534890229940noreply@blogger.com