tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post5815791756071189736..comments2023-09-29T06:00:09.242-05:00Comments on Julie Pippert: Using My Words: Erykah Badu and Neal McDonough and Me: Two ends of the media sexuality spectrum and one end of the mom spectrumJulie Pipperthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03169574697104642479noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-5780605694364158622010-04-09T14:08:09.207-05:002010-04-09T14:08:09.207-05:00Julie, I like how you explained this - it fits ver...Julie, I like how you explained this - it fits very well with how I have felt regarding a bunch of this "shock art" stuff (love that term, too). It isn't about *what* they do, as much as their lack of respect for others who feel different. And, all they need do is be transparent (pun sorta intended) with their intentions. That's why I don't mind that play about Jesus as a gay man: it wasn't as if they advertised "The Messiah" or anything like that - you knew what they were going to put on, and if you didn't like it, than don't go to see it. Badu, with her insistence on an "ambush performance", didn't give folks that choice.<br /><br />The sad thing is that, if children were present, she could end up being a convicted sex offender (just like the guy who did a drunken dance, nekkid, in his front yard one morning.)<br /><br />~EdT.Ed T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05901818490442310728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-80051803118005587132010-04-02T08:57:59.144-05:002010-04-02T08:57:59.144-05:00Emily, I'm perplexed...why would your child se...Emily, I'm perplexed...why would your child seeing a neighbor naked be horrifying to you but a musician stripping naked in a public square be okay? I'm not challenging you on your point, I'm trying to get to a way of understanding it.<br /><br />As to the Easter (and other overtly Christian mainstream holidays) I can definitely appreciate your challenge and discomfort there.<br /><br />Niobe, to be honest, I'm not sure whether I am more bothered by the naked or the disrespect, I think the disrespect which is why that's the point I'd address with my kids (also, I'm all about courtesy but not so much judging other morals, kwim). Thanks for taking th epoint -- thanks.<br /><br />Donna, very strong possibility. i think there's been a lot of "get myself on the news through shock entertainment" and since celebrity news is no longer left on E! but has moved into all news venues, well, broader spectrum to hit. But that's another vent for another day lol.<br /><br />Joy, thanks, thanks for taking the point and so forth. Shock art -- great description.Julie Pipperthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169574697104642479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-91664288664561000842010-04-02T08:38:37.171-05:002010-04-02T08:38:37.171-05:00If I'm considering the stripping-in-public thi...If I'm considering the stripping-in-public thing purely from a personal point of view -- as in, "how much would it bother *me* to be there with *my* kids?"-- I guess the answer is "not all that much" <br /><br />But I understand that most people probably feel differently, so I certainly understand(and even mostly agree with) the point you're making about invading public space.niobehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10685766216611639434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-41253886003084198882010-04-01T18:40:40.724-05:002010-04-01T18:40:40.724-05:00Well, here's the thing. I think nudity is jus...Well, here's the thing. I think nudity is just not that big a deal. I mean, I am a prude in a lot of ways and I do not think children should be sexualized, yet I am fine with them seeing nudity (although not nude adults, as a rule :) So, while I would be horrified if, say, a friend's parent let them see her nude, I don't think I'd be all that bothered if they saw this display. I would probably have some explaining to do, but honestly, that would be a welcome relief from having to explain why everyone walks around wishing them Happy Easter and telling them for the 98th time that there is no Easter bunny and they won't be getting Easter baskets. I find that conversation more uncomfortable...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-24823361887012665432010-04-01T17:45:36.523-05:002010-04-01T17:45:36.523-05:00I think Badu's act was less about art and more...I think Badu's act was less about art and more about a need to be noticed. After all, when was the last time anyone in the media talked about Erykah Badu? <br /><br />As you noted, McDonough's stance is far more courageous, as it may have hindered some of his career choices.Donnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14264449201706478489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-85746084693734558342010-04-01T17:13:30.273-05:002010-04-01T17:13:30.273-05:00VERY well put! I've been scratching my head to...VERY well put! I've been scratching my head too trying to balance the idea of free speech, art, and the invasion into my brain and personal moral beliefs. "Shock art" is what we can call it I guess.Joyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11665817424611482906noreply@blogger.com