tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post948701482449195868..comments2023-09-29T06:00:09.242-05:00Comments on Julie Pippert: Using My Words: Male pride and prejudice just a burger awayJulie Pipperthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03169574697104642479noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-59317017350339115702007-01-09T21:05:00.000-06:002007-01-09T21:05:00.000-06:00Kim, I think they are Gen Yers. I think many of th...Kim, I think they are Gen Yers. I think many of them are probably quite young, and I wonder if they are mainly single. I think a person who feels "married men with children who drive minivans and eat tofu must do so under duress" is most most likely a young bachelor who has yet to meet The One For Whom He Will Do Anything. But there I go being obnoxiously stereotyping. And proving how I read tons of women's literature (aka romance novels) in my spare time.<br /><br />Girl con queso, I did laugh. In fact, I remain amused. It was pretty clever. Then...there's the rest. LOL<br /><br />B&P, that occured to me too. There's a funny movie about infertility? And I missed it? Hmm, might have been by design.<br /><br />Thai, ummm, there's a Dr. Phil concept of maleness? Shall I simply assume it is the flip side of Dr. Laura's concept of femaleness?<br /><br />Oh!<br /><br />OH!<br /><br />Dr. Phil and Dr. Laura. <br /><br />Ohhh bad visual, BAD VISUAL!<br /><br />hey Chani, how were you ripped off?Julie Pipperthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169574697104642479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-86743477992108458542007-01-09T18:27:00.000-06:002007-01-09T18:27:00.000-06:00I watched the ad and found it mildly amusing but i...I watched the ad and found it mildly amusing but it definitely plays on stereotypes and is giving new validation to the Dr Phil concept of maleness. Males, just like us, come in all different shapes, sizes, temperaments. As one who particularly felt ripped off by feminism in the early 70s, I try to be fairly aware of doing the same thing to men. There are differences between the genders. I do believe that. But there are always exceptions to every rule. <br /><br /><br />Peace, <br /><br /><br />~Chanithailandchanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10171731740204067889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-75204532532164843062007-01-08T18:55:00.000-06:002007-01-08T18:55:00.000-06:00I'm always amazed at the way ads (beer commercials...I'm always amazed at the way ads (beer commercials especially) feel free to target men exclusively, even at the cost of alienating potential women customers. (Women, apparently, never drink beer.) <br /><br />On the comedy thing - the best comedy finds commonality in specifics, not in generalities. Like <i>Maybe Baby</i>, a film about infertility starring Hugh Laurie. I haven't gone through any of the medical interventions portrayed in the movie, but that movie is sad and funny to anyone precisely because it is so specific.Beahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15957626443087438904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-32099938643199882922007-01-08T12:06:00.000-06:002007-01-08T12:06:00.000-06:00Great post. Lots to think about. And I couldn't ...Great post. Lots to think about. And I couldn't agree more. And yet, I literally can not stop laughing about the image of them throwing the minivan over the bridge.Girl con Quesohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185883042219064363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-18119119138597668142007-01-08T11:07:00.000-06:002007-01-08T11:07:00.000-06:00Mad, you know...I think my parents were sort of "b...Mad, you know...I think my parents were sort of "backwards" for their time. I don't mean "old-fashioned" I mean really, really frustrated by gender roles that were so concrete back then. In this day and age I think my dad might have been a stay-at-home dad who kept a really neat house and tightly run ship. I think he would have gotten a kick out of it. I think my mom enjoys having a career. I wonder what difference it might have made were they able to pursue their interests, instead of doing what society always said they had to. A lot less frustration and stepping on toes, I can imagine.<br /><br />I imagine to just look at us, we might seem like we fit the general idea of stereotypes, but OMG how WRONG that would be. We're so much more complex than that.<br /><br />The greatest comedy, IMO, catches commonality and complexity. Trying to think of an example. Errr, struggling. It will come to me later. :)Julie Pipperthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169574697104642479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-59265649966125821552007-01-08T11:02:00.000-06:002007-01-08T11:02:00.000-06:00Jen, initially I totally laughed and was amused by...Jen, initially I totally laughed and was amused by how funny and clever it was. That's my surface reaction. But something kept bugging me. So I dug a little deeper. And you see the result.<br /><br />I feel a little handicapped not really growing up with brothers. I have three, but two are step and enough older that they were not really a big part of my childhood, although one is a great friend now. The thrid is so much younger than me that I'm more mom than sister. So my growing up years had no real perception of growing up girl vs. boy. KWIM?<br /><br />I'm lerning now, but I am raising daughters. So my focus tends to be girl-oriented.<br /><br />Yeah, I think girls have to fight, ones who don't fit the "girlie" mold, anyway, which I suspect is a goodly number of us. I also agree that boys have an uphill battle, especially ones who are not the "all boy" stereotype.<br /><br />Yeah, I agree, men (and especially boys) are often pidgeonholed and I think it handicaps them sometimes, in the same way it does for women.<br /><br />There are things that challenge my DH to this day because it just wasn't meant to be part of a boy's life, and yet, in truth, it is.Julie Pipperthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169574697104642479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-35274879595567783382007-01-08T11:00:00.000-06:002007-01-08T11:00:00.000-06:00It's funny. My husband is the health food freak in...It's funny. My husband is the health food freak in our house. I am the junk food addict. I find that I never, ever see my life or the lives of those I love reflected in gender-stereotyped ads or sitcoms or stand-up comedy or whatever the hell else is out there that presumes we can only create humour if we can generate a shared common ground. <br /><br />I watch a lot of sports (or used to before I became a toddler-attentive blogging addict). I am used to these types of ads and I am used to resisting them for the very reasons you describe.Madhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13416585771017767796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13083972.post-80533963071999802432007-01-07T17:50:00.000-06:002007-01-07T17:50:00.000-06:00i read this a bit earlier but had to leave and com...i read this a bit earlier but had to leave and come back...you know, i thought it was rather funny. but then reading your post, i agree with a lot of what you said (while thinking also, damn, this sister is s.m.a.r.t.)<br /><br />it's a bit off topic, but i've always thought men were pidgenholed by society more than women - emotionally at least. stereotypically, etc. or maybe we've had to fight harder along the way. nice post.Girlplustwohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07056576921114387218noreply@blogger.com